David Frise, Group Chief Executive Officer at Building Engineering Services Association, joins us to chat about competencies and initiatives within Construction to create a better and safer industry post-Grenfell. We discuss the balancing act of safety and value, the core principles of the British Standard competence framework, what needs to change from a training point of view, how can we better manage the culture change needed to create a more competent industry, the importance of documents when things go wrong, and more.