The Changelog: Software Development, Open Source
The Changelog: Software Development, Open Source
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Agentic infra changes everything (Interview)
2 hour 3 minutes Posted Oct 30, 2025 at 1:00 pm.
This week on The Changelog
Sponsor: Namespace
Start the show!
The AWS outage
The public's response
The cloud exodus
Taking control back
Who will build it
Maybe not a bubble
Sponsor: Tiger Data
Robot uprising concerns
Back to the practical
AGI locked in the basement
Real-world value
From the horse to the car
Changing Adam's mind
Humility required
Infra people resist
Practical AI slop
Sponsor: Notion
Babysitting or nah?
Improving the loop
A post-AI language
Paying the piper
The agent is the glue
System Init's sauce
What 'custom model' means
Humans in the loop
The MS-DOS era
Positioning System Init
The cloud OS?
The on-prem situation
Selling more than hiring
The sales approach
Every single deal
Wrapping up
Closing thoughts
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Show notes
Adam Jacob joins us to discuss how agentic systems for building and managing infrastructure have fundamentally altered how he thinks about everything, including the last six years of his life. Along the way, he opines on the recent AWS outage, debates whether we're in an AI-induced bubble, quells any concerns of AGI and a robot uprising, eats some humble pie, and more.