Today I'm joined by Joe Peters to discuss the business side of the health industry and how that often-neglected logistics side influences science and healthcare. Ranging over sales experiences in hospitals and personal experiences with doctors and nurses and struggling with our own challenges, we try to get down to the question of how to be healthy people in an age where the financial and insurance requirements of the industry don't always permit them to prioritize  the patient in the way that we might hope... and whether science is the problem or the solution to the challenges of bureacracy.

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