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What has 30 years of education reform in South Africa actually produced?For more than three decades, James Urdang has worked at the intersectionof education, civil society, and social change. As the founder ofEducation Africa, his work has been shaped by a clear belief thateducation remains one of the most powerful tools for breaking the cycleof poverty.What makes his perspective especially valuable is not only what he hasbuilt, but what he has witnessed over time. From the early years ofdemocratic transformation to the realities facing schools today, hisjourney offers a rare long view of how the system has evolved. Thisconversation with Phumi Mashigo asks a difficult but necessary question.After three decades of effort, investment, and ambition, what progresscan we truly see, and what still remains unfinished?

