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Alexis Contos
Neha Ruch on the Best Payback: Loving Your Life When No One's Watching | The Breadwinners Podcast
1 hour 29 minutes Posted Jun 23, 2026 at 11:00 am.
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Twenty years ago, Neha Ruch and I were colleagues at an ad agency in Boston. Two twenty-somethings staying late, expensing cab rides home, measuring our worth by how hard we hustled.
Today, between us, we have six kids, two platforms, and a completely different definition of what it means to be ambitious.
Neha is the founder of The Power Pause and the author of the book by the same name. For a decade she's been building language for a question most high-achieving women won't say out loud: if I'm not working for pay, what is success?
This isn't an interview. It's a reunion - two old friends comparing notes on what the journey actually cost, and what it gave back.In this episode, we talk about:
Why the real turning point in Neha's life came in motherhood, not business school
How to write your ideal day, and why it works like a contract with yourself
The invisible emotional labor of parenthood, and how to start noticing it again
Making decisions that no one else has to understand, and why that's the hardest muscle to build
Growing up alongside your kids as they need less of you
Redefining ambition as aligning your time with your values, not maximizing your output
Why we punish women for slowing down, and what it costs all of us
The best payback: loving your life when no one is watching
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The Four Agreements book mentioned by Neha
Find Neha at thepowerpause.com and on Instagram at @neha_ruch
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