I think we all love us some rebound or rebuild stories -- we want it for your own lives, for our friends, and for our family. When something bad happens to someone, or they seem kicked in the mouth by life, we want to see them rise up and succeed. That’s a legitimately cool aspect of the human condition, I’d argue. I’d even say some of the narrative about Steve Jobs that makes his story resonate is that he got pushed out of Apple, came back, and made it one of the most valuable companies in the world for a time. The rebound aspect of the story is a big part of it.

That’s actually not a bad segue, because the guest on Episode 4 is Sid Clevinger. He actually lives in Dallas and I live in Fort Worth, but I didn’t know that when I started taping it … so I was sitting in a sparsely-populated co-working space about 40 miles from him when we taped. Anyway, Sid is an entrepreneur and a lead generation machine. We talk a little bit about that stuff -- he definitely loves him some entrepreneurs like Tony Robbins, Branson, Jobs, Gates, etc. But there’s a lot more human to this story; Sid had a rough first marriage and lost big in a business deal about three years ago. He can actually remember the taste of gunpowder in his mouth as a gun was perched there, and now he’s clearing 60K some months. It’s a nice come-up story and instead of framing it just around Steve Jobs or Richard Branson or Gary Vee or putting the entrepreneurial Instagram quote panels on a pedestal, we look at the human elements involved -- how relationships and your brain’s framework really can drive you from a low place to a successful place. Hope you enjoy.