Something we have returned to time and time again in The Bird Emergency is how we have removed the nesting opportunities for birds that require hollows, and the need for shelter by all sorts of wildlife.

Thankfully, there are many people looking at other options, other than waiting 100 years or so for natural hollows to form.

Dr. Kylie Soanes tells me about some of the options being explored in Melbourne, and some of the new materials being employed.

Here's a link to a Pursuit article about Dan's fancy nest boxes that we were discussing; https://pursuit.unimelb.edu.au/articles/new-design-tech-offers-hope-for-urban-wildlife and the paper itself, which is open access https://doi.org/10.1111/2041-210X.13806 Follow Kylie on Twitter here - https://twitter.com/kyliesoanes Kylie is a bit of a rockstar on TikTok - https://www.tiktok.com/@drkyliesoanes You can check out the work of Kylie's lab, School of Ecosystem and Forest Sciences , The University of Melbourne - www.lifeontheverge.com.au

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