If you've ever seen Anti-Flag, you know bassist/singer Chris #2 is a total force of energy and true poetic positivity. But did you know... he didn't even know how to hold a guitar pick properly until his bandmate showed him?! Chris and Jeff dive deep into Chris' journey from fan-to-member of Anti-Flag, the band's major label and post-major label years, their re-ignition of sorts around 2015's American Spring, the band's incredible/powerful artwork, lessons learned from the Rock-Against-Bush era & so much more in this fun, emotional and fascinating conversation. What's your favorite Anti-Flag record? Mine is The Terror State! Tell me why I'm wrong at [email protected] and thanks for listening!

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