Arty and Ron forget to ask John Stanier of Battles, Tomahawk and Helmet about how he tried out for Ozzy. Instead Arty tries to get through a conversation without bringing up Yes in someway but compulsively gets philosophical about Bill Bruford in reference to Stanier’s playing. Then tells really silly story about how he lost a shoe to Trevor Dunn but then fought to get it back at a Mr. Bungle show in 1990. We also discuss the Vitus Anthrax shows and how Ron might have been near a show John was at 25 years ago or something. Also Ron and John talk about some guy called the “Chicken Man” who killed a person in a bathtub in the LES... Fucking weirdDrummers rule!