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9.1 Learning from the Dead, with Dr Caroline Copeland
1 hour Posted Sep 25, 2026 at 4:00 am.
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A chance lunchtime conversation changed Dr Caroline Copeland’s career. Newly arrived at St George’s as a pharmacologist, she discovered an old file. Two decades of coroners’ reports were sitting in paper files. Caroline saw what could be learned from them and changed direction to help keep the programme alive.  The rest, as they say, is history.

Today Caroline is Senior Lecturer in Pharmacology and Toxicology at King’s College London and Director of the National Programme on Substance Use Mortality. We talk about the people behind the statistics, the role of coroners and toxicology, deprivation and stigma, and why the details recorded after a death matter for preventing the next one. The conversation takes us from naloxone delivered by drone to the changing illicit drug supply and the difficulty of detecting Nitazenes after death.

Our micro discussion continues the theme and explores Caroline’s research suggesting that opioid-related deaths in England and Wales have been substantially underestimated. Why does this matter and what can we do about it? https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0955395925002725?via%3Dihub

As ever, Caroline shares a memory-evoking medicine, a career anthem and a book. As ever, it is the stories behind the choices that we love. In the Final Ingredient, Gimmo tells the story of Bixonimania: a fictional illness that found its way into confident AI answers. A reminder to check the source, however convincing the wording.

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From Prescription to Ocean — A TEDx Talk by Jamie HayesWe’re incredibly proud to share that Aural Apothecary co-host Jamie Hayes has taken to the TEDx stage with a thought-provoking talk:  Prescription to Ocean: The Hidden Impact of Medicines https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=swCLNaAG5qY

Jamie explores a fascinating and urgent question: What happens to our medicines once they leave the prescription pad — and how do they impact the world beyond the patient? It’s a journey that connects healthcare, the environment, and our shared responsibility for the future. You’ll never think about prescribing (or...