Jack and Geoff are joined by noted Apes author Andrew EC Gaska for a dip into a River of Flames! In their discussion of this animated Apes TV episode, the three ponder the mystery of Urko's orange uniform, the great WEAPONS/SCIENCE debate, and the greatness that inevitably ensues when you combine apes and lava. They also get into Star Trek's penchant for recycling, and theatrically-released 007-parodying Flintstones movies that nobody has ever heard of. Grab your laser cutter and dive in!