The Anxious Achiever
The Anxious Achiever
Morra Aarons-Mele
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Leading for Inclusive Excellence with Dr. Keivan Stassun
38 minutes Posted Sep 30, 2025 at 8:00 am.
What does “inclusive excellence” really mean?
How clear communication norms unlock focus and fairness.
Why agendas, structure, and precision help neurodivergent employees.
Ways to build new team habits that stick over time.
Supporting hyperfocus and respecting “hardwired” traits.
What Dr. Stassun discovered about his own brain through managing diverse teams.
Why Dr. Stassun normalized virtual participation years before COVID.
The science of visual thinking and strengths-based neurodiversity.
Why creativity and genius show up in many different forms.
The #1 mindset shift managers need to unlock talent.
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What can an Astrophysics Lab teach us about managing for inclusive excellence- and how can it make your own meetings better? In this episode, I sit down with Dr. Keivan Stassun, MacArthur Genius Fellow, Vanderbilt astrophysicist, and founder of the Frist Center for Autism and Innovation. We talk about clear communication norms, leading better meetings and other practices that support neurodiverse talent, and the mindset shift managers need to unlock hidden genius at work. Get ready to create workplaces where every brain can thrive.
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