England manage to defend 386 to at last win an ODI in Lahore, admittedly after they have already been eliminated from the tri-series. Simon Hughes and Simon Mann assess where England are in their ODI evolution, as they head off for some more white ball matches in Australia. Also we continue to discuss the clash of the titans in Cape Town where Australia are slowly but surely forcing South Africa into a corner. After three days SA lead by 40 with six wickets in hand on an increasingly unreliable pitch. But South Africa will fight to the death.. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices