I sat down with an old professional friend of mine, Hywel Roberts, to discuss his experience of being a 'Traveling Teacher' and how to get students not just compliant, but properly engaged. In this episode Hywel refers to 'botherdness', getting students 'invested' in their learning and how we can get students to 'lean into the curriculum'. A thoroughly engaging listen from a truly engaging teacher that will make you remember why you came into teaching.