Two years after the Kendrick Lamar vs Drake battle changed the temperature of hip-hop, we’re back behind the mic asking what actually changed.

In this return episode of Termagant Talk, Goodie and Shantel unpack:

• What Drake really lost after the battle

• Why Kendrick feels stronger than ever

• Quiet power vs loud validation

• Hip-hop aging, legacy, and revisionist history

• The New York Times “Greatest Songwriters” list

• Nas’ stealth mogul era

• Women, feminism, podcasts, New York culture, and why hip-hop started feeling corny for a minute

We also talk about why we stepped away, what pulled us back, and what Termagant Talk is becoming now.

Same chemistry. Sharper perspective. More to say.

New episodes Wednesdays(ish). We outside.