Justin and Jason discuss Justin’s tendency to argue with himself about code, the strategy board game that Jason and Colby are building together which we saw mentioned in recent Blackout Bingo reviews, the JS 13K Game challenge, Jason’s advice on how to find inexpensive talent on Upwork and how Justin might include these ideas on Nugget, how parents think about after-school coding programs, the Hacker News post asking startup employees how much they made on an exit, the funded vs. the bootstrapped startup model and Jason’s plans for Math Academy, the latest on Operation Superhero and the unreasonable effectiveness of strength training.