Technovation with Peter High (CIO, CTO, CDO, CXO Interviews)
Technovation with Peter High (CIO, CTO, CDO, CXO Interviews)
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Retool CEO David Hsu on Why AI Models Are No Longer the Bottleneck
48 minutes Posted Aug 13, 2026 at 7:00 am.
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The smartest AI model may no longer be the biggest constraint on enterprise AI.

In this episode of Technovation, Peter High speaks with Retool Co-Founder and CEO David Hsu about why the next frontier is the “harness” around the model: the context, tools, governance, and human approvals that allow AI to do meaningful work inside an enterprise. David explains why knowledge workers are still too often acting as the API for AI, how enterprises can democratize software development without sacrificing security, and why model flexibility matters as costs and capabilities change rapidly.

The conversation also explores the future of SaaS, the growing cybersecurity implications of AI-generated code, and how David’s background in philosophy shapes his thinking about intelligence itself.

This episode is presented by ElevenLabs — Bringing technology to life. Learn more at elevenlabs.io