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TranscriptMichael:[And I kind of wanted to explore that. And I think we talked about bringing it up, but I'm not sure. And that was, uh, when you asked me, do you ever wake up with full intentions to get stuff done? And then by the end of the day, you've gotten stuff done, but none of the things that you wanted to get done, got done. So I'm curious what brought that up. First of all. Damashe:[Yep. Right. And you're like, oh, so this time it's going to cost me, you know, 10 bucks for a late fee. And it wasn't that you didn't have the money, it's just you forgot to do it. But you woke up with the intention of doing it. Like, I think you had told Mallory you were going to pay the water bill or something, that you had it. And it just occurred to me that that happens to me quite a bit where I will get up and like, I will get up and either someone will have asked me to do something the night before or that morning, or I wake up to a text message like, OK, I will get that done. And then I get up and I get my coffee going, I get my coffee and do all of that. I'm sit down on the computer and I start working. And whatever that thing that I was supposed to be remembering to do first and foremost to start the day off, As soon as I touch the computer as soon as I had a device in hand that allowed me to do that thing I don't remember it until 8 o'clock at night. It's like oh man. I did do stuff I gotta just sit around not do anything today, but the one thing or the two things I said Waking up. I have to do these things today didn't get done. Michael:[First of all to those of you who support us one right now, but that will grow But I want to know from you and other people So share those with your friends How do you manage that because that happens to me all the time as the mossy brought up? But the good news is I was off on the time and we did not have to pay the $10, which is pretty cool. I was almost guaranteed that I had to, but I was off. It was PM, not AM. But still, the point is, I do that every day. Mario will text me. She'll say, hey, can you do this? And I'll say, yep, I'll get it done. It never gets done. It is at the point now where she or other people expect it, and I don't like that feeling and I need to figure out a way to solve that problem. And it's not that I don't want to do it, it's I get distracted with other tasks all the time. Damashe:[I haven't had one of those days in a while But I still end up with the same sort of feeling when you know I clearly say that I'm gonna do this thing or I have to do this thing or you know It's the third of the month and this is the last day for me to edit my you know, Amazon subscribe and save order And 11 o'clock he says, oh man, I didn't do the order. Crap, let me go here and hurry up. Oh wait, it's not even time, it's too late. Okay, now I'm gonna end up with stuff that I didn't need that I gotta pay for. But it's like there are times where something occurs to me before, and using that Amazon subscribing save as a perfect example. I will think about it on the 29th of the month, you know, going into the next month, because my subscribe and save, you know, final day, edit your order is the third of each month. And you know, before it feels everything is locked in, they start probably billing me for stuff that they're shipping around the seventh or eighth. So if I don't take something out or add something, I ain't getting it in that order. And I don't think about it on the 29th. Like I did it this month, actually. I thought about it around the 29th of May, you know, Memorial Day. Like, oh yeah, I need to go check the subscribe and save order to make sure that we're getting stuff that we need and then if there's stuff that we don't need, I can take that out. And if I need to add something, I can do that. I did not look at that order until Saturday morning, which was the 3rd, uh... [Honestly, although while I was sitting there, I could have looked at it real quick, watching the, you know, smelling the smoke coming off the ribs because they're already on the grill barbecuing, you know, slow cooking, like it's not like I'm cooking them on high heat or anything, on the grill for like eight hours. So I mean I had plenty of time to do it. It's like, oh, it's not that important for me to do it today. And then I forget and this happens with me. Now that particular thing happens to me quite a bit where I will think about something today, and I'll, okay, I'll do it. And it's like, well, I'm doing something else at the moment. I'm not gonna prioritize getting that thing done today because I know I have time to get it done. [It's like Hold on No, I didn't right, but don't on I'm gonna go do it right now I'm going to do it right now regardless of anything else I'm doing because I agreed to do a thing, you know It's kind of like with the unmute account that you asked me to set up Which I did that yesterday by the way, so it's not ready But here's the thing though this exact conversation we're having is why I did it right then I think mean you had just gotten off the phone and you like well, I'll tell you know Marty that doesn't be ready You know, I'm probably Friday Thursday or Friday. All right, that's okay. Yeah, that sounds good All right, I went ahead and did it right then before I got back into what I was doing before we got on the phone Because I didn't do it I would forget but it's also for me introduces the friction of task managers like we we have talked about to do list and You know, we've talked about reminders. We've thought about all the task managers out there at some point in life I'm probably trying most of them but there's that friction, right? Okay, you send me a text message taking you set up this account with this, you know thing and use that email address Okay, sure. That's not a problem. It's not a hard thing to do. It wasn't gonna go right in I was looking at all my phone. I'm not gonna go do that from the phone. That's painful. I don't like it I'm a Mac person. Maybe that's a part of the problem for me, too, is there things that I could probably do from my phone that I don't do. [Problem for me is there's friction to getting that in there, first of all, because you got to open it out, like from at the Mac, right now Todoist is not even running. I'm gonna have to open Todoist or open up Fantastical and add a task to Todoist, Which in itself doesn't seem like a hard thing to do But for me at least sometimes there's friction because it's like I don't know stuff open. I'm doing things I don't really want to open that to do this and then what do I set for the due date cuz I don't have a hard Deadline and what if I say okay due date is Friday June 9th, right? Okay. Well, it pops up at 9 o'clock on June 9th. I can do this I know what am I gonna do? I'm in a meeting. So it's kind of that that's fiction I know some people listen like we got to be more disciplined. I'm working on it. Michael:[It's not that I don't care about projects. Yeah, anyways, I listen to Rich on Tech. At least I try to. I don't know if you listen to that podcast. And he was going over some of his apps. Here's how much I listen to it. It's June 9th. Damashe:[Michael:[Damashe:[Michael:[The guy who took over Leo Laporte's show. And he was talking, this is how regularly I listen to it, on his Memorial Day Weekend show, today is when I was listening to that, about how the, or about the apps that he uses on his phone on a regular basis. And one of the apps made me think about task management, and it's called Email Me. Have you heard of that one? Damashe:[Michael:[The closest thing on Android is an app called Boomerang, and it sounds like you open it up and you put in the information you need sent to you as an email, and you hit send and it sends you an email. And he brought it up because I don't know if he's had the love-hate relationship that we do. I imagine he does, because he's in tech, because I'm new to his show. But he said, like it or not, my inbox has become my to-do list. When I get stuff, it goes into my inbox. So if I have something I need to do or get completed, I'm just going to email it to myself. So that way, when I see it in the inbox, I'll actually get it completed. I'm like, huh, that's interesting. If I could get rid of some of these emails and I need to pursue actually getting these cleaned up instead of just deleting the emails, that could be a way to work or set up a label for things that need to go into my inbox And then I, or not inbox, but my email. And then just delete them out of there when they're completed. Because I have no problem with putting stuff into Todoist, it's going back to look at what I need to do and checking those things off. I'll put stuff in there all day long. It's just going back and looking. But if I'm already in email, then it just kind of stays where I am. And like it or not, I'm in email. Damashe:[Although there's a feature that is handy and is going to come in very handy for me. Even, and I think this may be useful for other people. Even if you're not looking to set up a, you know, ticketing system like a Zendesk or FreeScout or HelpScout or, you know, CustomerScout, whatever the scouts are. There's a lot of scouts out there. There's a lot of Zen stuff and a lot of scouts. Somebody should make ZenScout and then we'll have a complete solution for all of it. Michael:[Damashe:[So something I just discovered, and it's probably been there for a while, but I haven't been in the notification settings for email on iOS in a while. So I hadn't seen this feature the last time I was in there. is not there. You now have the ability to... I don't know when this got added, but you can set up notifications for, and mine usually are set for VIPs. I don't want normal emails, but for VIP emails, I get a notification. Another thing you can do though is get a notification for a specific mailbox. Michael:[Damashe:[It'll be something I need to address. You know Costco hot deals are tomorrow email cuz you know, that's why they saw my inbox. That's awesome You just said there was the end of hot deals to write. Oh, so what are you doing? If you need work on your message Absolutely, you know get. [You're not always going to catch all of those, but another way that this could also be useful is if you have a contact form on your website, and if typically, I would say, if typically for you those contact form submissions are legitimate leads or legitimate inquiry from people, again, set up a filter, customize your form, you should be able to do that. You can definitely do it with Gravity Forms. the from email to be a specific email, you know, on your domain, preferably. [9:14] And when that email comes in, you can just make your filter rule be whenever I receive an email from contact at bedrockinnovations.com, move it to this folder. And that would be a folder that I could mark as, you know, support form request. It does two things. One, I could possibly get notified by that if I really wanted to, but also it helps organize it. So when I'm checking up on inquiries or potential leads for business, I can just go to that one folder. I'm not scanning through it. I'm not having to do a search because it's already been searched and filtered for me. When it comes to Todoist, this new feature they added is probably gonna change my life and I'll probably start using it again for at least two weeks, which is you can now schedule your reminders, which is what I actually need more than the due date notification. Like, hey, this is due today! It's like, you know, I don't have time right now and then I forget because it doesn't keep nagging me, right? We talked about due last week and it's continuing to nag you, but giving me the options to set reminders as I'm putting in the task with natural language, I think is gonna be helpful. Because if I have something that's due, you know, let's say, with that we'll go back to this, this, this masternode account you wanted me to set up, right? For me, let's say, I say, well, I need to have this done before I go to bed Friday night and you mentioned it to me on Tuesday. [On Wednesday, on Thursday, and then on Friday, send me one at 3 o'clock and then send me another one at 5, and probably another one at 7.30. And if I hadn't checked it off by then, either I've done it and didn't check it off, and I'll remember to check it off, so it's done, or if I haven't done it, I will remember to do it because it won't slip my mind in between me seeing one notification and being tied up and then getting free and forgetting I was supposed to do it. Michael:[No, I got Play with that let's let's follow up on that because I am curious if you use that for me reminders is my Stay there and Marty has taken off those reminders because I let him take those off and now I am looking at reminders I'm reminding Mallory. Do you have your laptop on the day? She need that as somebody she doesn't and so I'm using reminders right now as my as My persistent tool to keep track of things but more long-term stuff for going into to do list sometimes not all the time And just don't go back and look at it. Damashe:[Because that's how you got started with it, too. Was you and Mallory being able to, like, Mallory asked you to remind her to do a thing. You start putting in reminders. I think the idea was, I'm going to put it on the share reminder list. So then she'll get her own notification that tells her to do the thing. That didn't work, did it? Michael:[Damashe:[Michael:[And it was a meeting with someone that I have never met, don't even know the name, but it was a contractor at one of the places she works. And I didn't see and it said work. So I thought it was adding it to my work calendar and my work calendar is actually called my quote your own pay instead of work. And so I figured out that somehow we ended up with a shared calendar that is nice because we both know what's going on. So if there's anything I need heard that like if the boys have an appointment or something that goes on that shared calendar, because as I said, I went in there and I found like five or six different shared calendars that we've tried over the years and they haven't worked, but right now it's working and I'm not going to break it as long as things keep working. However, you said something that made me curious to Masi. I was 17 was released earlier this week and one of the things is now you just say S-I-R-I, and maybe I can just say Siri, and it won't trigger it. But I'm concerned, yeah, it didn't. So I'm concerned, though, that maybe that'll start triggering people's, but I guess it knows if you're intentionally talking to it, because if I say Siri, and then I keep talking, it doesn't seem to respond. But when I am, like when I pick up my phone on 17, and I just say Siri, what time is it? It'll tell me what time it is, which I actually think a lot of people are frustrated with that, but I think that is substantially more pleasant of an experience, personally. Damashe:[So my the home part many that you sent me is still on my desk and I named it shadow All right, so it'd be nice if I could say Shadow, what's the temperature in here? Michael:[Damashe:[I'm done. It's all over. I have reached my goals in life I'm done. It's all over. I talked to my home father. I'm out here But it'll be nice if I could do that and maybe we'll get there at some point the Just using SIRI to address the device. I don't personally have a problem with that I think they should leave the option for you to choose which one you want But as long as that is there, I don't understand why anybody would be pissy about it, like you have an option. You know, it's different when someone makes a decision and takes away something that you've been using and you were okay with the thing that you were using, even though they're trying to make it better or more efficient. But if you still have the option, like there's no need to be pissy, get over it, there's a lot more stuff going on in the world. It's just serious. Michael:[Damashe:[I don't know they're talking about Well, we did say we're gonna talk about a day So Michael watch the keynote. I have not actually listened to it yet I do have it downloaded and I will listen to it go through it But I've been picking up bits and pieces here from different podcasts I had to listen to connected to find out who won the Ricky's so that's that's that was my introduction to the things that were Announced I outside of what you told me and what I saw in a message thread here and there Obviously, everybody's interested in the Apple Vision Pro. I want to ask you about it, though, because you actually seen the keynote, so you kind of know how they presented it, how they weighed it out to people. But first question is, what do you think about the name? Michael:[Damashe:[Michael:[Damashe:[Michael:[Maybe I'm overthinking it. I also see where they came up with it, because I was pleasantly surprised that it had cameras. Like, a lot of people thought it wasn't going to. I don't know why. Maybe I'm overthinking it. I also see where they came up with it, because I was pleasantly surprised that it had cameras. A lot of people thought it wasn't going to, um, but it, it has plenty of cameras 12 from what I understand. And yeah, I'm, I, I have first thing I told you, I'm not going to get this. I'm not super interested in this. And then I started learning more about it and realized, huh, this does kind of sound interesting. Maybe this is something I might use. And so right now, if I can save up $3,500, I might get it. Otherwise I'm going to wait like you said until the second or third edition of it to go on. Or if you want to support the show and buy one of us, you know, Buy one and we will share it. We will send it back and forth. Damashe:[And at least this kind of. [I feel like This was a good time to announce it at WWDC Because right now the primary mode or the primary people that need to be aware and really working on this are developers and you start thinking about what they're gonna do before the SDKs release and they're able to do it in the virtual simulator on Mac with Xcode and I also kind of understand why it cost 3,500 bucks. I just want to point out though Everybody keeps fixating on $3,500. I heard a snippet from keynote what he said was starting at I did not catch that. That's scary Yes, somebody played it on a podcast. I was like to play in that snippet and and you could hear the gasp of the audience Like oh my god. Oh, that's not what I thought. He said starting at $34.99. I'm curious. [Because again, I'm not concerned about the accessibility. I'm curious about the accessibility, you know, fairly sure it's going to be accessible to a blind person. I think we already have confirmation of that. If people, for people who were, you know, in doubt that it was going to be accessible, I think we have confirmation of that now. But I was never concerned about whether it was going to be accessible. It's much like Apple watch when it came out just how like how is that interaction mode gonna look for me as a voiceover user? [I think that Wasn't really fully expected but it doesn't surprise me which is this really is a AR device with the capabilities of doing VR as Opposed to what the the meta quest and the meta quest pro with some of the other you know headsets that have been out there Are strictly VR headsets right so it's you in your own world that you're in and you know You can't interact with anybody else unless they have an also have one of these headsets and you're in the you know place that you Can do that This to me I think they really really tried hard to make sure that even though you may be occupied with the headset doing something inside of a Headset, you know, you're not completely separated from the rest of the world And one of the things they do I'm curious what people are gonna feel about this when they actually get to see it like if you're Looking at someone through the headset. They see your eyes being projected onto the lenses. That sounds weird to me It sounded weird the first time I heard it Before like is that leaked that leaked a while back and it was like no I'm not gonna be weird, but they did it the power behind this is a computer on your head So it makes sense why it starts at $34.99. Michael:[If it sees you looking towards the headset, talking at it, is it going to say, we're sorry, this person is temporarily unavailable? Damashe:[Michael:[They have very appropriate sounds. Damashe:[I was like, well, babe, you're dead to me right now And then I drop and then you sent me a link and when I got in like now I can see all my devices So I'm not sure what that whole thing was But I think maybe what have what happened for me the first time is that either I didn't either it didn't notify me or I had Missed the alert. They need a microphone access in the browser. So I could be why I wasn't working Yeah, very curious and I said I am now more interested in trying to get my hands on one when it comes out next year I'm expecting spring. I'm expecting like a March or April release for this is my expectation if it doesn't slip It's also possible. It will slip beyond WWDC I would not be surprised to see that some things that I'm interested to do with it though It's like the virtual workspaces with the Mac, right? I mean, I know it's not gonna be I can't see the giant screen is there that they're gonna project or whatever But that could be interesting for meetings. Michael:[That doesn't make any sense. But with the technology that we've seen with GPT, if I mentally, I know roughly where the key should be in a general area, I feel like auto-correct is at the point where if I write hi, but I don't hit, or if I write, hi, how's it going today? But I hit maybe 30% of those keys, but I'm a key off. Then it's, it's an understand and be able to correct that. And naturally it's just going to be, we're going to just start typing in the air in front of us or something. That's, that's weird to think about, but you won't have a phone in front of your face and you'll be able to engage environment. Like that's what has me excited because I think about like, like Ben sometimes he's guilty of it and I'm guilty of letting him play on his phone more than I probably should. I will admit that. But he will go out and just like when he walks to school, he'll just pay attention to his phone and not see anything around him or pay attention to anything around him. And that happens to a lot of people where you're just focused on the screen in front of you. If you can bring the input to the air in front of you and take the thing blocking your vision and let you see what's around you. I think in a weird way, it's going to bring us closer to technology, but also closer to people around us. Damashe:[Wait, is that what it's called now? See, I don't like the name. I think it was Apple Vision Pro. Michael:[Damashe:[Because I'm not sure. I don't like it. Because I'm not sure. But I'm pretty sure that's what it is, Apple Vision Pro. When you put Apple in front of it, then it sounds right. But if you just say the Vision Pro, which is what people are gonna start saying, me, I'm questioning it. But I can recommend that episode, at least up to that point, because that's about as far as I've gotten in it. But Jason Snell is one of those people who kind of really focused more so on not just like, It's cool. They did isn't look how he did this and they thought about all these things He's like this is a you know, that's why I got that line from honestly, cuz I haven't watched you know It's a AR device first with the ability to be a virtual reality device So they're trying to ensure that you're not Disconnecting from the world by use while you're using this is meant to be interactive with the world around you and you know reflecting on Tim Cook's Admittedly somewhat. I really want to use a big word. I couldn't think of it Is it middly kind of offhand statements over the years that he's made about you know, it's really interesting Oh, yeah, AR is you know something we're really looking at great like it makes sense with this headset why he was More focused on AR argument reality than virtual reality Because they don't want to disconnect you from the people around you or have you shut off into your own world I'm also interested in one of the reasons that I probably I'm gonna make every best effort to get it I will say that for me to learn how you know what it can be useful for what is good for but also to you Know introduce it to the family and see how they use it and what they think about it That is also something I'm curious about because I don't I haven't got any information about that yet Is this a single-person device like an iPhone or is this a device that when I put it on and it recognizes my iris It says oh, well, I see here's your stuff, right? Michael:[Damashe:[I thought it was gonna be like I'm gonna cost that much money Completely, but yeah definitely interested if anybody has any connections or knows anybody or you know these beta testers or anything We're here. We're open. I will walk around. Michael:[Damashe:[Michael:[Damashe:[They had a conversation about VR. I will find episode number for you I'll build a little special with more text and they were talking about their day. We're trying out the Meta quest pro or whatever it's called the latest thing that meta actually released not the thing they announced on Instagram to try to jump Apple And you know, they have some interesting thoughts about that device and how it worked. Yeah, definitely interested in the Apple vision Pro you can go to your own bay.com slash support or Ewww. Or just go there, or go to yourownpay.com.dwa and click on the tip jar link if you want to support us. Thanks to our subscriber that is out there. We appreciate you. You never get emails that tell us if we could use a name or not, so we're just gonna keep referring to you as the number one subscriber. Michael:[So did Apple talk about anything else that you wanted to chat about, or do you have something else that you want to bring up? Because the only thing in iOS 17 that intrigued me at first, well, I saw it at first, and then I forgot to bring it up a couple times, with that check-in feature, I am super excited about. I wanna play with that. So you can set it up. So if you are gonna go on a journey home or somewhere else, and you can let certain people know, hey, I've made it here, or hey, I'm gonna be delayed by a half hour, you know, expect that I might be a little bit later, but that way it's all kind of automated. And I think it's gonna tie into the journal feature of iOS 17. I have a mixed relationship with day one. I want to journal, but I don't journal. But when I go back and look at some of my journals, I'm like, oh, oh, I was thinking that when that happened, I don't even remember that. So then I see the value in journaling, And so I start to journal for a day or two and then I stop. So I hope that Apple being my journal provider because I'm I'm I'm an Apple person I have this pixel to the left of my keyboard and I just don't give it the fair attention. I should anyways I'm gonna be fair as a pixel 6 pro. Damashe:[Michael:[Yes, I'm playing with folk or I'm playing with shortcuts on Mac OS 13.4 Whatever and shortcuts is a lot nicer to navigate so we can talk about that But have you been playing with focus modes because I deleted all of mine except for do not disturb It won't let you delete that one. Damashe:[We'll definitely I'll definitely share this on the show. But so for example, I have 80 guys focus mode that I'm in the process of setting up. And the reason it's not just a quick boom, boom, boom, knock it out is because I'm trying to take my time and one, let notifications through that I'm not even there to let through. [I would like to have slack there I don't know what else needs to be there, but those two for sure You know notifications allow from you know Michael and JJ in slack and in messages As well as phone calls TIA a couple other people right block the kids out because they start texting me this You know ridiculous amounts of it. How does somebody put 37 emojis in one message that quickly? 37 shopping bags yesterday for my daughter's like now. I got no money Yeah, but she knew what you wanted shopping time dad So I did to start out when I reset my phone by deleting all of the focus most I had previously set up Except for my work focus I will eventually delete the one is called work But right now it still does the thing that when I'm in a meeting and automatically flip on which means I'm not getting random calls I don't even know why it's like message from data. Michael:[Damashe:[That 11 o'clock runs into like 1230. Well, like I need to know that I'm 30 minutes away from the next meeting I need to be in. So, fantastic notifications. I would like to get those. Well, I also had to. Go on the Mac and add the fantastical app on the Mac to allow it to come through as well Like it didn't go across that platform for me. Okay with that Messages seems to do that contact things to do that But I'm guessing a third-party apps because you know, of course not every single app is on your phone They're gonna be on your Mac and they can't even expect you to have it there. I guess Another thing I want to set over these focus modes to is calendar sets with fantastic I did discover that you can do this with the default calendar app So it is possible to have a specific set of calendar show based on a focus mode I just really don't like to default calendar app So moving on from that, but that was one of the questions I want to answer like how far can I go with this and I Actually could get fairly far with it Being fair notification seems to be a little bit more reliable with the calendar app because it's Apple's app I don't know and that's the only reason like it's Apple's app So they get some entitlements that fantastic gallery the other third-party calendar wouldn't I get? But there's an entry thing right so that fantastic I offer me But calendar sets are thing in fantastic I if you're not using them and you have several calendars as I do and as I know Michael does it is super helpful to to have specific calendar sets. You can always view all calendars. Right now I have a Bedrock calendar set that shows me my Bedrock Innovations calendar, the one that I use for people booking and scheduling appointments related to Bedrock. It does show my family calendar, so when someone asks me, are you available for a meeting at this time, I can take a look and make sure there's not a doctor's appointment there, if it makes it on the calendar. [There's an AT Guys now calendar set that shows the AT Guys team calendar, because it's the only one that I'll be putting events on, I don't see a reason to put them on my personal calendar, I'll probably lose them. It also shows my... Family calendar, and it shows the 80 guys To do this project Michael's frankly typing away. He's having brew install For once I'm not typing brew install surprisingly. Michael:[Yes, sir Which is not as good as real cold brew for some reason I've got it. Damashe:[We know it's not this it's not at all You can also set filters with a lot of apps actually a lot and that's that is the thing I'm wanting to take more advantage of with my focus modes this time around as I am rebuilding them and tweaking them is Being able to filter, you know What's shown to me in an app based off the focus mode that I'm in? I'm honestly trying to get to a point where I am always in a focus mode. Oh okay, whether that's a You know something dealing with work something dealing with family time or just a general focus mode in from and you know I don't know what I'm gonna call it probably just be like a you know, I don't know I'll put a mochi on or something We talked about that one's putting emojis on your focus mode microphone for recording or something. Yeah, yeah, oh, that's the other one I gotta work on to is my recording focus mode But yeah I'm trying to get to a point where I'm always no focus mode and reason for that being is like there's often times that there Are things well I guess just being wide open leaves me wide open and focus mode I can filter what I see Which could help me not do things like let's say if I'm in recording focus mode And I just randomly hit you know right option him because it's a habit, and then I look at the email It's like oh, then I get distracted. It's like no. I won't do that because what is it gonna show me? It's not gonna show me anything. It's gonna say mail is restricted. You cannot use mail right now can Man, I don't man. Michael:[Oh Oh, so you could have different commanders facing your focus on that would be nice, huh? Right option M will only take you to your 18 guys and it won't let you see anything else because you have a filter on mail So yeah, that could be fun We're right option M. Just as a DTS. Damashe:[[Not the oh, I airdropped her the password, but then when I changed it She still had a whole password deal. So that's interesting to me I'm going to make a promise to spend some time this summer before the release of iOS 17 using the Windows iCloud keychain integration build to see what is, if it's useful, because I feel like if it's useful enough and it's not too restricting, like if they just say you can only use it in Chrome, like it's not it's a non-starter, but if it's available anywhere in any browser at least, and optionally it would be nice if there was a way to get to your passwords in Windows through the iCloud control panel. [Because that's when it's coming up in office. Michael:[Damashe:[I think they have prevented this I don't know enough about what Google has done to say they have or have not Solved for this potential issue, but the scenario is let's say I switched over to using the pixel And that is my phone I go out and buy a pixel 7a like man this phone is really great I'm gonna use this the rest of the summer and I can put a beta on my iPhone. Yay all right So yeah, anybody got a pixel 7a? That's not actually a bad idea if I had to buy a pixel 7a I would do it and use that for the rest of the summer so I could put betas on my iPhone But let's say I do that and you know of course before you can really proceed beyond any point or to get access to your data interview store and all of that with an Android phone very much like on iOS you have to sign into your account. Well on Android that is your Google account. What if I only had the passkey on my Android phone? Now of course it's syncing through Google's services but I don't have another device to get my you know let's say I wipe my phone or I break my phone then I have to get an entirely new one so all of them for whatever reason there's not an alternative device available to me when I need to set up my phone again. How do I log into my Google account? Michael:[Damashe:[And if I bypass the login, then will I never get to send anything anywhere to anybody for help because I don't have my contacts. Now I I can think of some ways around this Google could still allow for you to log in where you use a name and password And you know an alternative two-factor method which is probably gonna be a solution for them for a while But the dream or the hope of past keys is that you'll get rid of passwords all together So again, how do I solve for that? If I don't have another device that I can log into or that I'm already excuse me already logged in to because I can't log Into anything else without the passkey What do I do? Michael:[Damashe:[[Maybe I can call it a something voicemail. I think though Transcribed whatever the features anyway the way it works is someone calls your phone Do you have this feature turned on and I was 17 only so right now my cousin on the baby because he's a voice There we go live voicemail. They want to call a visual voice. We open this already been taken I called Mike and what I heard was please leave your message after the tone the person you're calling may pick up. [I think you answered. Yeah, you did answer Yeah, yeah So those reading the transcript the first thing I thought about is This is gonna turn back into what I finally have gotten some older people to stop doing when they call you and they get your voicemail and they sit there and they spend the first two minutes of the voicemail of the five-minute voicemail they leave you saying pick up are you Pick up! It's Sons of Pickup! Can't hear that now people are gonna start doing this again when they call it a look because I know you're probably there Just pick up you read my voicemail right down pick it up No, no, I'm not. We have a little voicemail. No, that's not what the call live voicemail Seems interesting kind of this is like to bring it back after machines everything that was old is now new again Look, here's the answering machine Don't think there's any more things that I've heard There was one thing that I think I asked you about like why did nobody tell me about this thing? You guys just missed the whole thing. Nobody said anything about this about what was now So I will tell you I've told Mallory who have Snoopy come to the watch face. Michael:[Damashe:[Michael:[Damashe:[Yeah. So what I've heard about the watch leads me to think that basically they've taken some of the functionality of what I liked about the Siri watch space and made it kind of available everywhere and enhanced it a great deal. And I don't know anything else beyond that. Widgets somehow have a role here and you can put complications inside of a widget. I don't know. It's confusing the way people are talking about it without having looked at the keynote. Michael:[I only get half of the iOS experience until I update my watch, but I don't want to update my watch because when things break, I don't have a watch, but I'm also not keeping a move streak. Ooh, there's the transition. And that brings me to, um, unless you have anything else to talk about WWDC, I want to get a fitness update in because I have gotten nowhere on my fitness and I need to go out and do more. And I think you and I should start a contest or something and track it on the show. Damashe:[So, we start on Monday and we won't report on it next Friday because we won't have finished the challenge, but we will follow up that week after. Michael:[Damashe:[I should also probably reach out to what I think is for an episode Jeff Uh, yeah, are you listening and uh, we've never got feedback from Jeff. Yeah, once not once not one single time That's what I think from the show. I don't know man. I don't know. Yeah, we're just moving So yes, I mean he should be listening to the show while he's moving He should be but you know Sometimes when you're moving especially other people are helping I want to have your ears completely wide the hell open man because you do not want to take that couch to the shin like I promise you don't So I can completely understand why not but Jeff does a lot of consistent fitness stuff every day So it would also be motivating. I'm assuming it will be motivating. They turn out to be like, oh, well, you know, whatever But it probably will be some motivation to Have to compete against Jeff As well as Jeff does what I think he would do which is also trash talking a little bit like that Oh, that's big Stuff to go to and like man, you know what? I'm gonna get out there. Michael:[And it's not a good feeling. That's the best way I'll put that. When you don't go places. Damashe:[I have been comparing my time in, well, my time in Tuscaloosa compared to my time just about everywhere else I've lived. And in Atlanta, man, I went from every side of the city. When I lived in Denver, I was in Denver for a summer, I went everywhere, which kind of I had to because I was teaching on him So didn't really have a choice about going everywhere like you can't just hang out at the at the center with students That's from the pond you're supposed to be teaching them Houston I got around quite a bit Even in places that there was not public transportation I believe like I've done a lot of walking And here like I have not done any of that nearly as much as I would like I know some of the area But I'm not as familiar with Tesco loses I should be for as long as I've been here right my measurements right not not by anybody else but my own and that does bother me a little bit right because you know, am I losing the ability to do certain things? Am I losing the ability to travel independently without being, you know, like, I'm gonna be honest, man, I'm nervous as hell about this airport. I'm not gonna even lie to you. Because it's been a while since I've been in an airport anyway, and then just the lack of. Constantly using those travel skills makes me feel a little bit more anxious than I ordinarily would usually go into an airport in the past I would be like Okay, so let's see how good or bad the service is gonna be here like how much trouble am I gonna have actually get into? My game, but there's not any concern. Michael:[Damashe:[I mean just general navigation. Never went to an airport. Just general navigation. I had in a lot of places I have lived, it was just moving around like it was nothing. And it's like now, you know, you got all these apps and if I get to the airport, there's, you know, there's things like Aira, there's Be My Eyes, there's, you know, whole tons of stuff to use. I don't even know if the airport has any, you know, indoor navigational things, right? Michael:[We'll follow up. We'll see who is Who's more productive and gets out there cuz I'm gonna get out there and be more active I gotta get more comfortable my local community I can't even go to my local grocery store and go find the stuff I need at the store in a general idea I mean, I guess I have a general idea, but I haven't done it And that that bothers me because I realize you know, that's a skill that I have and if you don't use it You lose it. Uh-huh. Damashe:[That's the thing that's, you know, beginning to kind of bother me a bit. It's like, I don't, somebody tells me, oh, you know, I need you to come here to this place. I'm like, I have no idea where that place is in Tuscaloosa. It turns out it's like two blocks away, well, probably not two blocks, but you know, five minutes, seven minutes away, probably what would amount to maybe a 20-minute walk for me to get there. Right, yep. You know, the furthest I have been from where I live now walking or, you know, walking, I get in somebody's car going somewhere, is to the key of school. Michael:[That's encouraging, but then you get home from convention, like, I traveled across the country. I'm not going anywhere in my little community. Damashe:[Michael:[Because I can travel. I had no problem when I got to Omaha traveling. Traveling was fine, but, you know, getting out and going and doing stuff. It can be a point of laziness, but here's my thing, and maybe I'll work like a guide dog. I have to have a destination and a purpose to go and really everything I can do is at home From the computer for the most that's a little bit of it too for me It's like by the time I you know started noticing. Damashe:[Right, but if it's exercise because I gotta get my rings closed so that Mike doesn't stop the crap out of me in his competition Well, you know what? Guess what? I'm out there and I'm where people see me which does lead to conversation at times, too So there's that aspect of it. So and I am interested in that leader dog program myself, too I don't know when I'm gonna go but I am absolutely going if it you know, I won't say that We're not gonna move what I was about to say, but yeah I have every intention of going there to do that. when is going to be. [I'm fully aware of that and embrace that and you know, just you know, he probably didn't listen to our show, but uh, just to applaud kayaker for Recognizing that within himself and taking that that journey to go to the look at our program and I appreciate that He appreciated that he did it and also appreciate the fact that he was he shared it because I never knew that existed No, you neither or well, I think I knew something like it existed, but like him I assume they're gonna teach me how to use to point out or how to Trail a grass line to find the end of a of a block or something, you know Like the basics that I really knew I I need to be more confident with using the skills that I have versus learning the basic skills And that was Andrew Hey, hey, hey, hey over here. You'll see me look. Yeah. Michael:[Nobody add to a list Probably let me pretty sure that would mean that one of us would I don't know listen to the show I mean you edit the show man Said listen to the show. I didn't say edit the show, but you're listening when you're editing by the time No, not really actually. Most of the time I hear the show, but I listen for like, um, I listen for keywords or mouse smacks. I don't really re-listen to the content too much, usually. Damashe:[Michael:[47:58] You need to go to theglobalvoice.info slash Reaper. Damashe:[48:00] All right, I need to go to theglobalvoice.info slash Reaper. Michael:[48:03] Yep, that's theglobalvoice.info slash Reaper. Oh wait, we're not being sponsored by them, but no, I downloaded that file. It's actually in the root directory of Sync. It's a, I think I put the zip file in there. I'm gonna dive with some more cool things about Reaper. And then there's another training that I'm gonna look up that teaches you that's free from Drew Weber. You know Drew. And he made a Making Liners for Radio Station course that That he's giving away for free using Reaper to teach you how to make voiceovers for liners and then sell those to radio stations Hmm. Damashe:[Michael:[I thought that was going somewhere completely different. Like, well, don't, just send them to me. No, see, that's the thing is, is I know there's some projects for your voice. That would be a think about it, it's kind of like reading a weird formatted audio book. Damashe:[I've done neither of these two things, but from my perspective I would think going into reading a transcript for audio description is a little bit more like honestly I think that might be harder for me Then doing an audio book And the reason is because you have to try to keep the inflection out of your voice for most things with the audio description Yeah, you can't start reading about you know guy that is tiptoeing around and he has a you know sniper rifle or whatever and start Decided about it. Oh, man, what's gonna happen now the assignment song? Michael:[Damashe:[I might have to go read the whole script today come back and like okay Well now I could do this because I know what happened But yeah, I mean, I'm not I've told you this before I'm not one I'm not closed off to doing any sort of voiceover work at all It just wasn't a thing that I thought I would ever end up being involved in at all Even when you started talking about look man if you need me to do something I reach out, but I'm gonna go set up a Voice that me account and let people hire me. I don't know if that is just don't go there. Don't don't go there Listen, I'm telling you not to go there Mike's already done it, but I have a lot of it was clear So I'm just fair warning. I just made it up because I couldn't remember the service that a lot of people use Michael will remember it's Voice one two three there we go see that's what I was thinking about what I couldn't remember So I just made up a voice without me. Michael:[So don't look for me there. Damashe:[I can't stand Oh, I finally found another person who really cares about one the audio quality and two they are As vain as I am about showing up in video meetings and looking good I feel like I don't know. Michael:[Damashe:[Michael:[Damashe:[Control and I sent I for the micro email about it Well, I first got the email from liminal because I'm on their mailing list and I was like, ah, this is cool I honestly thought it was just like you install like a rapper app and it you know exposes a bunch of stuff in shortcuts That's apparently not how it works It didn't Mike Ford me a link which we will put in the show notes for anybody interested Because those let you add more shortcuts with our zone the Mike Ford email to the office hours where they were discussing this and My first thought was I got that email probably My second thought was huh? Why did I'm not suspected they were gonna have a conversation about this when I saw the first? I should have known this is gonna be a thing Did you watch it? I have not watched it yet. I'm gonna I've grabbed it and downloaded it but I'd miss it to a J. Michael:[So if you have admin access, or if you are a host of a meeting, there are specific shortcuts you can run on iOS that would allow you to do things inside of Zoom. Which means, if you wanted to, you could assign a double tap or triple tap, back tap to a shortcut that would provide any details in a Zoom meeting if necessary, or mute all participants, or something else that you need to do in order to make that happen, so. Damashe:[So it sounds like that has changed. try to see this is one of the problems with software for me this is a problem that I have. I used to be better about this whenever there would be an update if something was broken prior I would always go check to see if they fixed it But then they train you to you know, no didn't fix it. No, we didn't fix it. No way They just stop looking which is where I'm at now. I just stop looking so we'll follow up on that Maybe shortcuts will help us with the journaling or medical Oh, I'm gonna go back to that for a second with the journey So from your perspective because I was thinking about this and there's a little maybe you can clear up first I'm gonna actually clear up some possibly clear up some Confusion for me if you can't understand if you cannot because people are confused about and I have not watched any of the keynote sessions So, this journaling app that Apple has introduced, it has the ability, and there's an API for the app, so that my understanding initially was that apps would be able to donate information into the journaling app for suggestions. And then walk it back for a second and tell me if I'm wrong. So, with the journaling app, one of the features about it that is cool is that when you go in to make a new entry, there's going to be things that are going to suggest that you may want to add to that journal entry, right? Michael:[Damashe:[Michael:[Damashe:[It's all over because there are people that are probably never going to stop using day one. I think their business is probably fine, honestly. But the question really was, are people going to jump over to using like, people like me, for example, who I played with day one, or Michael will even be a better example, because he has stuff in day one. And maybe he goes to the journaling app now because it has these features and day one does not have all of these features and capabilities.Or would Apple have an API that day one could hook into to also be able to receive, say, that notification, I mean, that weather conditions from Carrot and the suggested photos based off what you're writing or things like that, right? And I've heard dissenting opinions about what the API does. So. [I've heard mixed opinions on whether or not day one could make use of that same information or not for an example What were they clear about that in the keynote or is it? I do not have that answer or they just say and there's an API and then they ran off stage. Michael:[Damashe:[That's a new thing. I'm kind of happy about that And we'll be following up with more information more things that we're interested in I think because there's a lot out there I have heard things and did not remember what they were For this last week they it was WWDC every day except for Monday. Yeah, I tell you what I will listen to do things up so for sure And probably Wednesday's because Shelly Brisbane is on Wednesday You'll be talking about some accessibility stuff. Michael:[Damashe:[Michael:[However, they're trying something a little bit different So yeah, I did it episode. Damashe:[Yeah, which is kind of a problem though. I mean given that it's a Saturday show I can see and I think I know what happened. Well, I'll give you a bit ed points You don't have to try to edit around it. So I was listening to that and I legitimately thought like oh, that's interesting I did not tune into double-tap to hear somebody just read out a bunch of headlines for me though Like I really didn't and why did you get Laura like you're gonna do this? But the other thing I thought about is I see what happened here, though So, but Sean was probably like, listen, man, I did not sign up to do this six days a week and I'm not happy about it. Michael:[Damashe:[Michael:[Don't know what happened there. And honestly, this episode is already late and I've got other stuff to work on. So I'm recording this quick outro if you want to connect with us, then feel free to reach out at payome P-A-Y-O-W-E-N well, I guess let me redo that. I'm payone at unmute.community. 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