<p>In this episode you can hear Lee Cockerell and Andrei talk about one man's journey from the bottom straight to the top, the importance of first hand experience, why you can only ever change just yourself and no one else and how empathy and discipline are key to success.</p> <p>You can read the show notes on https://techieleadership.com/show18</p>

Buying a cow and paying for it with it's own milk - with Harvey Brody - Bonus episode

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