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Naomi Klein and Astra Taylor join Douglas Rushkoff to discuss their new book End Times Fascism: And the Fight for the Living World, exploring the forces driving authoritarianism, the seductive fantasy of escape, the growing alliance between technology and power, and what it means to resist by staying rooted in the here and now. Together, they make the case for a politics of “here-ness” - choosing community, solidarity, mutual aid, and a commitment to the living world over bunkers, borders, and dreams of escape.

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