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Artist Kenya (Robinson) joins Douglas Rushkoff to explore what happens when the boundary between art and everyday life disappears. From earning an MFA at Yale to working as a mail carrier and training as an auto mechanic, (Robinson) reflects on class, race, ambition, institutional definitions of success, and learning to see work itself as creative practice. Along the way, she connects automotive systems to tarot, ritual, energy, and “deep magic,” while considering how artists can loosen their grip on recognition, take care of themselves, and transform the ordinary materials of life into something meaningful.

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