Stephen and Robyn discuss the business of curating the NGV, and the culture of fashion design. Associate Professor Robyn Healy is a Program director of Fashion Design in the School of Architecture and Design at RMIT University. For many years she was also a curator at the National Gallery of Victoria. Here she gives an insight into the business of curating, the designs she acquired for the NGV archives, the culture of fashion design both here and overseas, and Australian designers who have been influential in driving men's fashion.