<p>Corey and Van are joined by special guest Brandon Dowd. &nbsp;Brandon is a realtor who used to work with Van in hospitality. &nbsp;In Part I, the boys catch up on Brandon's recent job change, they field some questions from the peanut gallery, and they talk about what got them into heavy music in the first place. &nbsp;</p>

25. The Pit Pod Part II with Special Guest Brandon Dowd (Heavy Metal Stigmas, The State of the Scene, Rapid Fire Questions)

Corey Bell and Van Santos have been friends for over 15 years. After all those years of weekly phone calls, they decided to start recording their talks. Talkin BS (Bell/Santos) is the product of those phone calls.  Corey and Van discuss a variety of topics from sports to food to pup-culture. 

Certain themes have been born out of the process.  Here are a few: 
1) A Wave starts with a Ripple.  Be the Ripple for positive change. 
2) Chime Time: If you hear a chime in the middle of an episode, it's time to take a drink. 
3) When in doubt, apply the Sliding Scale to the situation.