John has specific instructions for his wife when he dies, and reveals his obsession with vice grip pliers. Meanwhile, Jonnie ponders the real villain of the Titanic movie and tells the strange story of how government-imported camels in the 1800's led to ghost sightings in Arizona. Plus, a conversation about contemplation, and the power our thoughts have over the direction of our lives. Today's episode is NOT sponsored by A Box of Old Cables in Your Garage: "Every Man Has One&hellip; and Every Man is Afraid to Throw It Out&rdquo; FOLLOW Jonnie W: https://jonniew.com FOLLOW John Driver: https://johndriver.com LISTEN, SUBSCRIBE, SEND MESSAGE, OR SUPPORT at http://talkaboutthatpodcast.com WATCH/SUBSCRIBE on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCwjExy_jWIdNvGd28XgF2Dg Discover more Christian podcasts at <a href="https://www.lifeaudio.com/">lifeaudio.com</a> and inquire about advertising opportunities at <a href="https://www.lifeaudio.com/contact-us">lifeaudio.com/contact-us</a>.

A-Listers, Interrupting Dogs, and Inspiration

Two quirky and cerebral creatives talk it out as writer and former History teacher, John Driver, goes toe-to-toe with best friend and comedian, Jonnie W., in hilariously real and genuinely insightful conversations about life, history, current culture, faith—and everything in between.