After mentioning the "alt-center" in passing over the first few pods, Frank and Elie dive in and explain what the hell alt-centerism is. Enjoy.

Frank & Elie with Bishop Garrison poke the diplomatic bear

Taking Ship is a voyage through dumbest timeline America. It's the kind of podcast that believes you can take politics and culture seriously while laughing at both. It's hosted by Elie Jacobs, Maggie Moore and Frank Spring, three political hacks who've run out of f***s to give. Each episode, they'll take a look at the political landscape, condone and condemn those who deserve it and often be joined by a guest who is smarter and cooler than they are.

Taking Ship: your guide through #DumbestTimelineAmerica