I talk with Kama La Mackerel about their debut poetry collection ZOM-FAM and a slew of other topics, including femme armour, shame, and intuition. 

The episode transcript is available right here. 

Photo of Kama La Mackerel by Laurence Philomene.

The podcast theme song is "Tall Girl" by Wares from the album Survival, which you can (and probably should) get via Bandcamp. (This song appears courtesy of Wares and Mint Records.)

Our logo was designed by Rojina Farrokhnejad at HandMadeDesign. 

t4t is recorded and edited on the unceded ancestral territories of the xʷməθkʷəy̓əm (Musqueam), Sḵwx̱wú7mesh (Squamish), and sə̓lílwətaʔɬ (Tsleil-Waututh) Nations.