Chitchat about whether it's guilt or shame, and why it matters. Part 1. Martha's a bit of an expert on this subject, if you didn't know! Buy her book <a href='https://marthasweezy.com/project/ifs_shame_guilt/'>here</a>.
Martha is at <a href='https://marthasweezy.com/'>marthasweezy.com</a> 
Hanna is at <a href='http://hannarea.com'>hannarea.com</a> 
Fiona is at <a href='https://fionakaterice.com/'>fionakaterice.com</a>
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Part 2: How do we know if it's guilt or shame?

Martha Sweezy, Hanna Soumerai Rea, and Fiona Kate Rice bring humor, heart, and irreverence to the IFS perspective on the world. Whether you’re an Internal Family Systems pro or just parts-curious, join us for deep dives, candid insights, and chitchat that makes self-discovery a little less serious—and a lot more fun. Therapy talk with a side of banter.