Where’s the relief money? Derek Thompson of The Atlantic has been writing brilliantly on how Denmark is moving radically at light speed to save its economy - and America is not. He brings ideas on a better way. Plus we dive into his latest reporting on coronavirus "test and trace" solutions from authoritarian China to less invasive versions in Singapore and Germany. But will skeptical Americans buy in? Derek Thompson says we have to mount a real collective effort from states to business to the federal government and launch fast. If we build a Covid-19 surveillance machine, can we dissolve it once we have a vaccine? Listen in.