Stuck Not Broken
Stuck Not Broken
Justin Sunseri
No, the Polyvagal Theory is NOT Dead: Here's What Critics (and Influencers) Aren't Understanding.
25 minutes Posted Mar 16, 2026 at 12:00 pm.
Polyvagal Not Dead
The New Critique
How To Evaluate
The Vagal Paradox
Grossman Misreads It
AI Paper Comparison
RSA Not Foundational
Thermometer Analogy
Freeze Versus Shutdown
Bradycardia In Context
Non Mammal Myelination
Social Engagement System
Wrap Up And Rebuttal
Who The Paper Targets
Advice And Conclusion
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A paper co-authored by 39 scientists called the Polyvagal Theory "untenable" — and now psychology influencers are announcing the Theory is "dead." But is it?

I'm Justin Sunseri, therapist and member of the Polyvagal Institute's Editorial Board. That means I review work for Polyvagal Theory accuracy. So let me actually look at the claims.

In this episode, I break down Paul Grossman's paper "Why the Polyvagal Theory Is Untenable." We need to objectively check whether his criticisms accurately represent what the theory actually says. Because if they don't, the counterarguments are moot.

Links mentioned:

  1. Grossman's paper: https://www.clinicalneuropsychiatry.org/download/why-the-polyvagal-theory-is-untenable-an-international-expert-evaluation-of-the-polyvagal-theory-and-commentary-upon-porges-s-w-2025-polyvagal-theory-current-status-clinical-applications-and/
  2. Porges' "The Vagal Paradox": https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/38108034/
  3. Grossman's ResearchGate: https://www.researchgate.net/post/After_30_years_of_polyvagal_hypotheses_is_there_any_direct_evidence_for_the_first_3_premises_that_form_the_foundation_of_the_polyvagal_conjectures
  4. Porges' response(s) to Grossman: https://www.clinicalneuropsychiatry.org/download/when-a-critique-becomes-untenable-a-scholarly-response-to-grossman-et-al-s-evaluation-of-polyvagal-theory/
  5. Google NotebookLM: https://notebooklm.google.com

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This and other content produced by Justin Sunseri (“JustinLMFT”) (i.e; podcast, YouTube, Instagram, etc.) is not therapy, not intended to be therapy or be a replacement for therapy.  Nothing in this creates or indicates a therapeutic relationship.  Please consult with your therapist or seek for one in your area if you are experiencing mental health symptoms.  Nothing should be construed to be specific life advice; it is for educational and entertainment purposes only.

Justin Sunseri is a Licensed Marriage & Family Therapist registered in the State of California (#99147).

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