John, and Shahrezad (Shaz) in absentia, interrogate David on his theory that identifying and eliminating marginal losses from institutions and systems of public and private governance can lead to better organisations and to better organisational outcomes.

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> What are 'marginal losses' and why is knowing about them important?

> Can organisations be improved by identifying marginal losses?

> What obstacles exist in current organisational thinking that would prevent the proper identification of marginal losses and why do they matter?

> Will artificial intelligence liberate organisations from 'legacy thinking', creating a better work-space?

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