Phyllis Drucker talks about including the ability to fail, VeriSM™, continuous learning, business partnership with IT, Enterprise Service Management, Information Security, and more, including her sessions at HDI 2019 Conference & Expo http://bit.ly/2VmfZtv The SPOCcast logo, podcast theme, and all content are the property of HDI, a part of Informa Tech. © 2019 HDI, all rights reserved.