Rabbi Neil Amswych of Temple Beth Shalom in Santa Fe, NM, interviews Rev. Dr. Harry Eberts III. Harry, as he likes to be called, is the pastor of First Presbyterian of Santa Fe, and the co-president of the Santa Fe Interfaith Leadership Alliance. They talk about how the shift from in-person to online happened at the start of the pandemic happened in all its challenges and unexpected gifts. And then they discuss the difficulty of returning to in-person services as things begin to open up.