release date: 02 march 2021This program is an interview with mesotonal composers and musicians Kraig Grady and Terumi Narushima who together as the duet Clocks and Clouds. I travelled to their home in Unanderra south of Sydney to speak with them about the insrtuments that Kraig designs and builds, their compositional strategies and the ways that each space they play in modulates the sonic production and experiential affect of their music.You can find out a lot more about Kraig and Terumi’s activities at the website anaphoria.com