SPaMCAST 847 features a wide-ranging discussion with Pete Oliver-Krueger and Michael Dougherty. We discuss their new book, Shift: From Product To People. Shift is a business novel of organizational change. You will find this an important view into change and transformation. We also hit science fiction and psychology. I even dissed George RR Martin. Two notes. This is the last cast of year 18. We begin year 19 next week. Also a quick content warning – there is laughter in this podcast. If you don't like listening to people have fun while they discuss a serious topic listen anyway. Check it out on Oikosofy: https://oikosofy-app.hustlefree.co/shiftbook_beta/ Buy from Amazon: https://amzn.to/4gSKi50