We welcome philosopher and social scientist Jason Ānanda Josephson Storm, author of The Invention of Religion in Japan (2012), The Myth of Disenchantment (2017) and Metamodernism (2021). Among many other things, we talk about his work, modernity and its alleged departure from the supernatural, Mark Zuckerberg completely misreading Snow Crash, and how philosophy help us to live a live that it is worth living.