The great Barak Hardley (an actor, writer, creator & omni-disciplined artist from The Office, Togetherness, & Halt & Catch Fire & most recently The Mortuary Collection & Spell, which he also co-wrote) & I discuss his art, making his great film Spell & how difficult it is to make a movie, the art world, the Mona Lisa, Halt & Catch Fire & ever-so-much more. www.barakhardley.comwww.tiktok.com/@barakhardleySpell on Tubi: www.tubitv.com/movies/565913/spell