Ang, who identifies as non-binary, is a stand up comedian, teacher and hosts an amazing podcast called Sober During Crisis on Podbean,  I love this conversation with Ang.  It's my first episode recorded on Zoom where we can see each other so it makes for a very different kind of episode that you will surely enjoy. Sit back and relax or take a long walk and listen to some great material, then go to her podcast for more good stuff! --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/sobergratitudes/message