<p>In this episode, Jesper asks the question, what was there before the universe? Has it always just been there? Was it emptiness? Do we live in a simulation? Is there a limit to human comprehension in regards to the universe? Rod and Jesper explore these topics and more, while Jo is sleepily getting lost in one rabbit hole to the next.</p>

Utopia: Can it exist? What would it look like?

So, I Was Thinking is a podcast where we challenge your brain to think... and then to think some more! This cast is meant to be a conversation, a discussion, a debate, a learning experience and an exercise of the mind. Some topics we cover might be uncomfortable or hard to hear. None of our co-hosts or guests claim to be experts on the topics that we discuss. At times, we will poke and play devils advocate for the sake of conversation and to explore various viewpoints that may even differ from our own. It is never our intent to cause harm or be insensitive about the subject matter.