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What Next - The 9/11 Panopticon
32 minutes Posted Sep 10, 2026 at 7:00 am.
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America didn’t start down the path to a president who is unaccountable to even the Constitution under Trump. He’s the culmination of a change that dates back to September 11, 2001.


Guest: Ben Wizner, Deputy Legal Director and Director, Center for Democracy

ACLU


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Podcast production by Evan Campbell, Madeline Thames-Ducharme and Patrick Fort.


Paige Osburn is the senior supervising producer of What Next and What Next TBD.


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