Recorded 22 October 2017.  Ms Ann and Richard discuss the Periscope App; an interview with Pamela Gay; Richard Saunders on Sydney morning radio talking aliens, evolution and skeptics; Steve, Jay and Bob Novella reviewing Star Trek Discovery; a work epiphany; our Patreon; our Facebook page; Bag free shopping; forgetting the Vegas shootings; an insulin denying face slapping therapist goes to court; Accountants; Journalists; a movie producer; biodynamic farming; and honorary degrees.