To kick off Spooktober, Kate tells Dee about the Ant Walkers of Hiroshima and how mankind created something much more terrifying than any ghost story. Big Poppa Smurf calls in about annoying Tiktok trends and Liz Short wants to know how Kate feels about birds. Sign up for the Sick and Wrong Patreon to hear Second Show, SW archives, and the bonus minisode Serial Killer Star Signs.