At 27 minutes long this is our longest episode yet. Jenny talks about empathy and burning bridges and Charli gets caught in the twilight of unforeseen confrontation.
 
ENJOY!
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S3X and Joshua Harris’s Bowling Ball Sized Test*s

This will not be "your mother's" polite pastor's wife discussion. Two long time church ministry leaders, going by the aliases Charli and Jenny, talk about everything from how much church can suck to how weird life is when you're expected to be a super human. Whether you are a current or former church leader or participant or are just curious about the underbelly of church leadership culture, you're welcome and safe here. This podcast is NOT for: kids, religious zealots, ultra sensitive church lovers, or people who just aren't willing to accept that church really sucks behind the curtain.