<p>We talk about 'bad' words and whether or not we're just trying to not be like our parents.</p>

The Old School Genders & Jesus Loves Therapy (Charli's favorite so far.)

This will not be "your mother's" polite pastor's wife discussion. Two long time church ministry leaders, going by the aliases Charli and Jenny, talk about everything from how much church can suck to how weird life is when you're expected to be a super human. Whether you are a current or former church leader or participant or are just curious about the underbelly of church leadership culture, you're welcome and safe here. This podcast is NOT for: kids, religious zealots, ultra sensitive church lovers, or people who just aren't willing to accept that church really sucks behind the curtain.