You hear Philippa Gray talking about how disturbing it has been to read biographies.  You hear Paul O'Mahony advocate that immediate past presidents should be trained - Pat Caslin & Philippa are not sure they need to be trained.  Pat's big idea this week is all about his new roles: VP Education in "Masters of Evaluation" & VP Membership in "Shilling Speakers".  You hear Margaret Bishton, the immediate past Sergeant-at-Arms of Shilling Toastmasters being interviewed by Philippa.  It's Philippa's turn to get on the Soapbox - she feels strongly about dreaming (and Freud).