In this episode Meghan and Amani interview Dr. David Shiffman, a marine biologist and conservationist about his publication "Recreational shark fishing in Florida: How research and strategic science communication helped to change policy" (Shiffman 2020). We discuss the complexities of creating policies that are beneficial to all stakeholders involved, the process which Dr. Shiffman went through in order to write a policy that took into account all sides, and how we, as scientists, can become better science communicators. Get ready to jump into the world of policymaking and science communication!