Show notes
Ministry leaders are often exhausted — but most don’t know what to do with their fatigue beyond pushing through it. In this conversation, Brett Payne, founder of Rhythms for Life Ministry, unpacks the four types of fatigue, why most leaders rarely pause to know the difference, and the untapped freedom that comes from actually processing our weariness instead of ignoring it. Packed with practical wisdom from decades of working with ministry leaders, Brett brings us new ways of thinking about “...

