ServingLeaders Podcast
ServingLeaders Podcast
ServingLeaders Ministries
Special Edition Episode! The Four Types of Tired Every Leader Should Know: A Conversation with Brett Payne of Rhythms for Life Ministry with bonus segment: A Personal Sabbatical Story with Joe Bruni of ServingLeaders
1 hour 55 minutes Posted Mar 5, 2026 at 10:00 am.
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Ministry leaders are often exhausted — but most don’t know what to do with their fatigue beyond pushing through it. In this conversation, Brett Payne, founder of Rhythms for Life Ministry, unpacks the four types of fatigue, why most leaders rarely pause to know the difference, and the untapped freedom that comes from actually processing our weariness instead of ignoring it. Packed with practical wisdom from decades of working with ministry leaders, Brett brings us new ways of thinking about “...