In this episode I had a great pleasure to chat with Lana Turvey-Collins. Her experience as a facilitator for the Plenary Council in Australia (https://plenarycouncil.catholic.org.au/), did not stop her from starting the family and becoming the person she wants to be. In this grounded in ordinary life conversation we talk about challenges of being a mum, a Catholic and a person whose life and professional mission go hand in hand.