Jon sits down with Seattle's former Chief of Police, Carmen Best. The first Black female to lead the department, Best is now an author and a law enforcement analyst for NBC and MSNBC. Jon and Carmen discuss her new book, the balance of police reform and public safety, the circumstances that drove her to retirement, advice for Seattle’s new leaders on public safety, and more. Join us for Seattle City Makers with Jon Scholes and guest Carmen Best.

Episode 2: Bernie Griffin

A diverse range of people are shaping Seattle's business, arts, cultural and public sectors and driving the city’s renewal and reemergence from the global pandemic. Join Downtown Seattle Association President & CEO Jon Scholes for conversations with leaders across multiple sectors who are influencing the Seattle of today and tomorrow. Seattle City Makers with Jon Scholes, one of Seattle Magazine’s Most Influential People of 2021, will feature the people behind transformative projects, organizations and initiatives in Seattle, and sometimes in other cities as well. Jon and his guests discuss lessons learned from successes and challenges, approaches to leadership and views on issues affecting urban areas here and elsewhere.