Our guest today is Rob Hopkins, environmentalist, founder of the Transition Town Totnes and Transition Network, author, artist, and host of the podcast ‘From what if to what next’. In this interview with Scott Snibbe, he talks about his work with the Transition Network, the relationship between one’s spiritual life and action in the world, and the potential of communities to promote positive change. He also discusses possible solutions to the current climate and ecological crises, the role of positive narratives, and the lessons that we can learn from the COVID-19 pandemics.