In the fourth episode of The S.A.F.E. Topics Podcast, we change up the format from our one

word conversation to an ongoing series with universal design for learning (UDL). Our hostsSean and curry are joined by Aaron Holmes (Access Specialist DSPS) and Jeff Higginbotham(Faculty Director DSPS) in an unscripted conversation on "Designing Classes for All Learners: Possibility or Pipe Dream."